[Sigpub-l] Re: [Asis-l] Open Access publishing & ASIST publications: Part II
Michel J. Menou
Michel.Menou at wanadoo.fr
Wed Apr 28 13:17:53 EDT 2004
This time replying publicly in cas this could help boosting
Tuesday, April 27, 2004, 11:28:03 PM, Michael Leach wrote:
ML> It was brought to my attention that some potential authors are
ML> steering clear of one of our publications because it is not
ML> available (full-text) online.
I further support Sheila Webber's point that ARIST should be available
ML> As another reply noted, awareness by faculty of the OA movement is
ML> growing, and some faculty/authors are adopting this publishing
ML> model personally.
A bottom line should be non-exclusive licenses
ML> Now, for a few more points of discussion:
ML> 1. The lack of a large, vivid response to my initial posting can be taken
ML> as a) apathy, b) contentment with the status quo, c) lack of knowledge of
ML> the issues, d) some combination of the above, or e) some variable I
ML> haven't accounted for. Should there be little response to this posting, I
ML> will consider the issues "dead" and refrain from further
I hope the correct answer is a+c+e
ML> 2. Should we (ASIST--its members) be experimenting with new models of
ML> publishing and scholarly communications, or should we leave it up to some
ML> other group(s) (like the biomed sciences)? The Directory of Open Access
ML> Journals lists 27 LIS journals worldwide. There are 216 titles under
ML> "medicine" in this directory. Granted, there are far, far fewer L/IS
ML> researchers than medical researchers, but information--its creation,
ML> storage, organization & retrieval--is our principle bailiwick.
I feel we should experiment with new models, for ethical and
This should not put our financial situation at risk (risk being
understood as something that is not likely to find a positive solution
in the medium term, otherwise no risk equals death)
ML> We do have an OA publication--the Bulletin--but its OA status is more
ML> a secondary consideration to the print publication. Should we be using
ML> this publication to test electronic publication models? Where is the
ML> metadata attached to each article? What about controlled indexing and
ML> search interfaces? What about layout of online content, alternative
ML> formats (e.g. pdf instead of just the html)? What are the costs for
ML> publishing each article online? What will it take to truly archive this
ML> publication? How does the print counterpart support or detract from the
ML> OA version? Should we add a peer-reviewed section (perhaps just online)
ML> to assess the costs associated with OA publishing?
I feel it is up to the editor to respond to these questions.
Making the online version of the Bulletin a better OA publication
would be welcome, if affordable.
But I feel that we could consider other publications, e.g. ARIST or
the conference proceedings
ML> Why haven't we lined up researchers in our L/IS schools to examine
ML> these issues over the short and long term, working in conjunction
ML> with the editors, editorial boards, and the Society?
May be because in any setting, primarily the publishing industry,
economics has to remain a branch of alchemy, at least for the
Whatever the answer, why don't we just do it now?
ML> I acknowledge that the above is spirited and even confrontational,
No need to apologize. This is the very basis of science and democracy
ML> but I believe we have the strengths within this Society to tackle these
ML> issues while the OA movement is young--and to have an impact in its (OA)
ML> direction and formation.
Definitely and we should have such role
ML> Personally, I have my doubts about the viability of the OA
ML> publishing model, but without some experimentation, without some
ML> effort at researching the issues, all we have is conjecture.
According to Dr. Puppybreath, Gutenberg himself told him he had doubts
about the viability of the printing press :-)
Looking at what is now happening in the "music industry" it may well
be that the old models are dying.
I don't know either. But as you said earlier, if we are true to our
discipline we should be at the forefront of investigating these issues
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